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I really hope I'm not the only person on Earth who hates this movie. ^^;

Seriously, Avatar was a big disappointment for me. I think that everyone can unanimously agree that the special effects are nothing short of amazing. But, in my opinion, that's the only good thing about it. The story is just plain stupid. :|

"Let's waste a few billion dollars going to war with an alien race so we can get some rocks that MIGHT get us a few billion dollars! That makes PERFECT sense!" :dummy:
"Let's destroy everything that is sacred to the Na'vi! Why? Because we have to follow the cliche of humans being evil in movies with aliens!" :la:
Plus, we get two overly dramatic death scenes that didn't faze me in the least bit because the characters were never developed or likable. Heck, most characters in this movie aren't. :unimpressed:

I'll betcha if this movie wasn't so graphically amazing, it wouldn't be nearly as popular. Then again, maybe it would be, because then they probably would have actually focused on telling a good story rather than making it look pretty. :hmm:

Respect my opinion and I'll respect yours. :B
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ShortLemonie3 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
When I was younger I adored this movie, then I realized it was a story done to death, but only in space.
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DesignsByDevan Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
(Is probably going to get so much fucking ranting feedback)

I liked the movie, but I agree with you. It didn't have that much story to it, but a lot of filler.

(Braces self)
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your-first-boyfriend Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
That movie actually hurt my eyes. Like, physically hurt them. I guess my eyes can't handle all that CGI. :saddummy:
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The only likeable character was the main antagonist. The big badass man with the mech who likes to hold his breath before putting his mask on.
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Dimentio13 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Yeah... That movie f*cking sucks
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Cooldude104 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011  Student General Artist
To be honest, the only bit I liked about the entire thing were the special effects, not in 3D that barely worked. But we've seen this Story done to death. plus they didn't build on much. "Here is a rare element that is worth trillions! it can possibly get the US out of debt to China!" What too soon? "But we're not going to explain why it is so expensive, we'll just use the excuse of it's alien and therefore it is worth more!"

And the Na'vi were kinda cool, but in the end they were still giant blue alien cat smurfs, and god damn were they "Holier than thou" stating that their way of life was clearly better since they didn't turn their planet into concrete and metal, So... technological advancement is the Devil and Nature is Jesus?

Finally was the anti military idea. How the soldiers were pure evil and all that simply because they were working for a big corporation and they have jobs to follow and families to try and support and how simply because they follow orders they are bad. the moment you saw the jackass out of the entire unit (surprisingly) I immediately thought "Wow. they are giving no attempt at showing us that he might live, he's so big of a asshole that he's going to die."

I'd have issues with inconsistent arrow scenes but they weren't as big. but yeah those are my main issues.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I could not have summarized it better. Bravo.
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Cooldude104 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011  Student General Artist
Thanks. sometimes if I put my mind to it I can be really anaylitical. to be honest when I first walked out of the theater, I thought it was pretty good, then I started to think about it more, heard some stuff, checked it out for myself, recalled on events, and I realized it's flaws.
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TyrannosaurusKing Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i hate all of it. i like jurassic park because the animals LOOK real, and it's a good plot
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, the animals in Avatar do look real, they're just made-up animals. But I agree with you, Jurassic Park had a much better plot.
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TyrannosaurusKing Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah but you could tell in avatar what was cgi. in Jurassic park u couldn't really tell
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SilentAsShadows Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Late, but that's because in Jurassic park... they WEREN'T CGI, it was advanced Puppetry. We did not have CGI back in 1993.
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TyrannosaurusKing Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. The dinosaurs running such as the gallimimus were all cgi. A lot of animatronics like in the trex destroying the car was only ahowing legs or the head or half the body. Scenes where youu see the animals hunting or chasing, it's cgi
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True there.
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AndreaYaay Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011  Student Digital Artist
YAY, im not the only one who didn't like it ! :iconluvluvplz:
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know the feeling. When I saw it and I didn't like it, I thought I was the only one.
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AndreaYaay Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, it kinda pisses me off that everyone HAVE to like Avatar and Justin Bieber and all shit like that. And if you don't you aren't "popular" wtf.
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Dantesparda90 Featured By Owner May 3, 2011
I remember when james cameron made movies about human pwning aliens
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tamarialovestechumsa Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
unfortunately that is exactly what happened to the indians. it's an old story retold in a new setting. that's all.
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Dantesparda90 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
"because poor plot and charcters are kewl" I think Ripley should've killed some aliens in this movie I was waitin for her to jump into a mech and kick ass but we didn't get anything. scerously If you want to watch a good si fi movie just buy star wars,or Wrath of Khan Which didn't need amazng cgi effects to make it good.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly. I think everything (movies, video games, etc.) are more focused on being visually pleasing than telling a good story nowadays.
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Dantesparda90 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
yeah like FF games they began to suck when they wanted to focus on graphics
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Pokermark Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Do you know when James Cameron even started thinking about Avatar? :s Huh, Yeah, After he made Titanic, Which was year 1997, so he waited with Avatar a few years and around year 2004, or something like that, He and his crew started devenloping the world of Pandora, and in 2005, (wich was the year ATLA was Released.. I think..) They started making it Avatar. So James was actually first, and almost everybody who worked with film KNEW back in 1997, that he was going to make Avatar ;) I like ATLA, but i just had to write this x'D And to all of you that says that Avatar has a boring storyline ... Avatar is about WE destroying nature, and it's animal kingdom. WE should take care of our earth, just like the Na'vi does in Avatar :) I'm absolutley on *ilikeanimeandfluff's side ^.^
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I know that Cameron wanted to create Avatar right after Titanic, but nobody would fund him because of how ridiculous the cost of the special effects he wanted were. Hah, I actually remember reading an article named "Movies That Probably Won't Ever Be Made" or something like that. And Avatar was one of them (the article was written in the early 2000s).

I just pretty much hate anything with an environmental message, not because I hate the environment or anything, but because it seems that anything with an environmental message can never be subtle about it. It's always right in your face the whole time, and it really irritates me. Avatar is no exception to that. Combine that with the fact that the movie's plot really isn't that strong anyway ("Let's waste a few trillion dollars and countless human lives going to war with an alien race so we can get some rocks that might get us a few trillion dollars! That makes PERFECT sense!") and you get a movie I'm not too fond of. I really only like movies with weak plots if that's what the directors were trying for (such as Holy Grail). But in my opinion, Avatar isn't like that. It's not, how should I put this, it's not bad enough to be good. It's just... bad.
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Pokermark Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, but i was just saying that ATLA wasn't first with it, and it my comment was meant to reply another comment on your devitation.

Back to the discusion of the movie:

I'm very close to nature and since i was little i've been having such strong respect for our earth, and i think that is why i liked Avatar so much. In that way James did a very good job with it! Plus that James is like me, He was very close to nature as a child. And Avatar was his dream-movie, That he wanted to make, But everyone said that it wasn't going to work, Back in 1997. But then he got green-light, and he got to do the movie that he's been dreaming of so long!

Yes, But everyone has different taste ;)

(Sorry if i spelled anything wrong.. But i'm swedish xD)
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True. Everyone has a different taste. ;)

Actually, your English is great! If you hadn't said that you were Swedish, I would have never guessed that English wasn't your native language! :clap:
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Pokermark Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well thank you! :D
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem! ;)
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Pokermark Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^
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maxvision92 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
More and more I wish that last Christmas I had gone to see The Princess and the Frog instead. That movie was way more fun than Avatar.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Definitely. Princess and the Frog was proof that Disney can make good movies as long as they don't have Pixar around (although Tangled was awesome as well). Disney movies seem to be making a comeback in quality, it seems.
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maxvision92 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I more or less was forced to go to Avatar. I had already learned just how bad the movie was, and let people know as much; my family said to go and see the movie.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, I saw Avatar by choice. Notice how the first line in the description for this stamp is "I really hope I'm not the only person on Earth who hates this movie. ^^;" That's because I hadn't heard any negative reviews of the movie before I saw it (or before making this stamp).
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maxvision92 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course not. It was too early for any negative press to pop up. It took me a year of thought to hate the movie, but now, I could tell the "heroes" just what I think of them, in a rant straight out of "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream".
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Maxe1000000 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
the story in avatar has been overused like hell
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Shenmue654 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2010
Aww, no comments. My opinion on Avatar is weird. I'll fully admit that the storyline was rather derivative and was like Pocahontas in space. Although, if you interpret the Na'vi as cells of a malicious Eywa later intending to "convert" Earth, and chalk up all of their individual personalities to convenient adaptation...

It becomes much, MUCH cooler. X3

But as for the movie itself. Saying no thought was put into the creatures and the world itself is essentially bullshit. Take a good look at the movie and you'll see that they thought of things as weird as whether Avatars and Na'vi have slightly different musculature. Or how a Banshee would fly. And a great number of the plants. The world-building wasn't just "invented" for the extra Codex stuff. It was already created by Avatar's very talented concept artists. Even you have to admit the planet and its creatures were beautiful and complex, catering to "archetypes" or not.

But the characters and the storyline were extremely derivative, and the dialogue ranged from pretty funny to really cheesy. But I'm the idiot who loves children's movies and has a higher disbelief threshold. So it was fine for me. That makes me "cute" and bored by modern-day worlds, not stupid. :P

So whether or not you liked Avatar kind of depends on what you were trying to get out of the movie. It's more of a simple fantasy and less an Issac Asimov.
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2010
Who needs a good story when other movies already made a story for you!
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True, true. Although, when you think about it, is any movie original? You could easily say that any romance movie is a ripoff of Romeo and Juliet: Two people are in love with each other, something prevents them from being together, and in the end, they are together. The difference is that those movies try to be original. Avatar didn't even try. They essentially took "Dances With Wolves" (and countless other movies), and put it in the future. That's it. The story is still the same thing.
:bulletred: White men want some land.
:bulletred: The Native American-like tribe who owns the land won't give it to them.
:bulletred: The white men send an ambassador to the Native American tribe to earn their trust.
:bulletred: While there, the ambassador realizes that this tribe doesn't deserve to be destroyed.
:bulletred: The white men prepare to take the land by force.
:bulletred: A war begins, and the ambassador fights on the Native American tribe's side.
:bulletred: The Native American tribe somehow wins.

Clearly, no effort was put into Avatar's story. :unimpressed:
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2010
Technically Romeo and Juliet is based off of an ancient greek story.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really? Huh, I never knew that, though I thought somebody would have come up with the idea long before Shakespeare. :shrug:
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Scary-Scarlet Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2010
Sorry I have to disagree, the story is very compelling to myself, but your opinion is your opinion.
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Shabi000 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
WHO NEEDS A GOOD STORY WHEN YOU HAVE HOT BLUE GUYS??! :dummy:
Srsly.
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Lord-ShinRa Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010
Trust me it's even worse than you think.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why do you say that? :O
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Lord-ShinRa Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2010
For a start there's sequels being made. Two of them.

And then there's the film's messages.

Namely that humanity will never learn from any of its mistakes, that technology beyond that of the cavemen era is instantly evil. And that genocide is a good thing because humans were born on the wrong planet and didn't evolve in the right way.

Of course there's also the ending in which the Na'vi openly and willingly attempt to commit genocide by denial of resources; and the audience is supposed to support them in this action.
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EonOrteaShadowmaster Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010  Student Writer
I beg to differ. The story was good. It's all a matter of taste.
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SuperRara Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010
Hear, hear!
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fluffy-the-wolf Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You know how in the movies/tv shows the main character initially has a crush on this one person who's undeniably beautiful? But after getting to know said person, the main character realizes they are boring, pretentious, and unrelateable?

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That's what this movie was to me. It was pretty to look at, but once I saw it, my theory of it being preachy and predictable was very accurate. Problem is, 95% of the population are too seduced by the special effecst to see that.
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ToastersToastToast Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed. I really hope that in about 10 or so years, when the effects become much more common, people will see Avatar for what it really is.
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fluffy-the-wolf Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One can only hope.
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